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angel_sista
Posted: 18 February 2011 12:18 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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You got questions? Well, chances are, we have answers!

First off: What’s CG?

CG is also known as the Curly Girl Method. Originally, it was based on the idea that curly hair tends to be drier than straighter hair, as the oil produced at the scalp find it harder to work their way further down the hair shaft around the curls to keep moisture in.
Lorraine Massey wrote a book called Curly Girl which suggested that Sodium Lauryl Sulfates (SLS), as well as other harsh sulphates are incredibly drying to Curly Hair and instead they should Co-wash.
More details here.

What’s Co-wash?

Co-wash is when people use conditioner instead of shampoo

Do I have to give up shampoo completely?!

Some people do. Some people low-poo

What’s a low poo?

A low-poo shampoo is one that doesn’t contain sulfates such as SLS or ALS (Ammonium Laureth Sulfate - vegetable derived but still quite harsh) but uses other, more gentle surfectants to clean your hair.

Here’s an article for more.

Where can I find SLS free shampoos?

Check this thread out.

What are cones?

Some people avoid silicones (sometimes abbreviated to ‘cones’) because some of them are only removable with harsher sulfates and if they only co-wash, their conditioner may not remove them, resulting in build -up. Not every one does this. More here. Cocamidopropyl betaine also removes most cones and is not as harsh as SLS.

What products should I use for my 2a/2b/2c/3a/3b/3c/4a/4b/25z hair?

Right, you’re probably going to hate me but the fact is, there is no perfect product for a single ‘hair type’. A lot of people prefer to choose products based on other hair properties.
The following statements are crass generalisations and you may be the exception!:
Fine hair - Hair has a small diameter. Prone to breakage by rough manipulation. Loves protein but can get over moisturised quickly.
Medium hair - Has a medium diameter. Can take hits of protein and moisture equally.
Coarse hair - Hair has a thick diameter. Usually hates protein - too much can cause split ends. Usually has more needs in the area of moisture.

And then there’s porosity:

Low porosity - Somebody dropped a cup of water on your head. Two days later, it’s still wet (well, maybe not two days, but hair takes a while to absorb products. At the same time, it’s also highly reluctant to let go/get rid of what it has taken up). This hair does not take colour easily. However, this usually means that your hair is quite healthy with lots of cuticles.

Medium porosity - Somewhere in the middle.

Highly porous: Takes colour up extremely quickly and brightly. Is quickly dampened in the shower, but dries almost as fast. Can be caused by heat damage, colouring hair, normal wear and tear or could just be the way your hair is.

I tend to think of it more as a sliding scale than a definite category.
The ends of your hair usually tend to be more porous, though the kicker is, you could have a variety of factors on you head - just like you have that bit that curls differently, you may also have a part of your hair that is finer than everywhere else and absorbs water like it was left in the desert.

For more on protein vs moisture, read here.

My hair looked awesome all day but then I went to bed and all my curls were gone!

Some people ‘pineapple their hair’ when they go to bed, which generally consists of piling all the curls on top of their head. This is to preserve the curl.
Then they use a satin bonnet or scarf or pillow case to protect the hair - this is prevent the cotton pillowcase wickering out the moisture from the hair.
Not every person finds pineappling works for them - some people prefer satin bonnets.
Due to the porous nature of your hair ends, some moisturise the ends, then ‘seal’ it with an oil or butter.

Okay. But someone wrote some letters in the forum (KCCC, DBCG, KCKT etc) and I have NO idea what it means.

Some of the products have rather long names, so people use abbreviations. It should be somewhere in this thread.

How can I find out what products everyone else uses?

Most people write them in their signature, along with the properties of their hair. You can even see mine below, as a(n im)perfect example.

I bought this product and I HATE it. What should I do?

Someone on the swap board may love it. If not, use it as a fragranced bathroom cleaner smile

Am I allowed to brush my hair? What about de-tangling?
Some people like to finger detangle (which is running their fingers through their hair to get rid of shed hairs), some people use combs and some people love brushes. It’s your personal preference - if your hair is prone to breakage and you want to use a comb, many’d recommend using a seamless comb, which is where the comb is made out of one piece of material such as the Jilbere Shower Comb.

Some people detangle dry.

Others de-tangle damp.

There are others who only do it when their hair is wet.

Whether you do it before or after you wash is up to you.

There are others, who prefer to detangle and wash with their hair in sections (maybe twisted, braided, or just separated) to avoid re-tangling when they rinse their hair and just for general convenience as far as keeping your hair out of your way is concerned smile

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Pre-poo/Dry Detangler agent/Sealant/Styler: Vatika Oil
Shampoo: Diluted African Black Soap
Conditioner: Tresemmé Naturals
Leave In - Giovanni Direct Leave In! :D

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angel_sista
Posted: 18 February 2011 12:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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A good way to test which is the best method for you is to detangle over a piece of white paper and to take a picture. Then you can compare the results of each technique.
If the strands of hair have a white bulb at the end, that’s shed hair and it’s fine (unless you’re shedding more than normal.)
If there isn’t a bulb at either end, or it’s really short, it’s probably breakage, which isn’t so great.
When detangling, a lot of people prefer to use conditioner with a lot of ‘slip’, which means it allows the comb or detangling tool of choice to slide through easily.

If this is a seriously huge concern, read more here
If there’s anything else you’d like to know, please post below and I’ll do my best to update this post!

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Pre-poo/Dry Detangler agent/Sealant/Styler: Vatika Oil
Shampoo: Diluted African Black Soap
Conditioner: Tresemmé Naturals
Leave In - Giovanni Direct Leave In! :D

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Keisha Jo
Posted: 18 February 2011 12:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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angel_sista - 18 February 2011 12:19 PM

If there’s anything else you’d like to know, please post below and I’ll do my best to update this post!

Excellent post angel_sista it has been made sticky smile Thank you for being so thoughtful and helpful! x

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smile I love my Curly Hair

Corkscrew Curls

Fine, Medium, Coarse Hair Strands
Normal Porosity, Medium Density
Products : Rotating everything in the Curly Emporium!

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curlyhairmich
Posted: 18 February 2011 04:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Yes excellent angel_sista smile

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Fine to med hair, porous - most porous on canopy, low/med density
CG since May 2009
Products sept 2011
Coloured
CWC if required
Co wash - Tresemme
Rinse out - Tresemme naturals/CJ Smoothing Lotion if needed
Styling -  Naked curl defining cream, Mop Top Gel
Still trying products but not as much as previously!
http://members.fotki.com/curlyhairmichuk/
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emoon1984
Posted: 18 February 2011 05:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Thanks angel_sista this is great!!

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Botticelli/Corkicelli Curls
medium/coarse texture
low porosity
low density due to severe hair loss (although previously high density)
Seborrheic Dermatitis :(

Started CG on 17/1/2011

Low Poo: Giovanni TTT Shampoo
Rinse Leave In: KCNT
Styling: CJ Curl Queen, BSRHG
DT:Boots coconut intensive hair mask
PT: Gelatin nc.com mix/ AOGPB
Sealant: Anita Grant Caffe Latte/Grapeseed Oil with Sweet Orange

Homemade Burdock Root and Agave Nectar Spritz to refresh

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Jackylou
Posted: 18 February 2011 10:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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fabulous post! smile

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corkscrew + fractal/zigzag curls (3c/4a), fine-med strands, slightly high porosity, med density
HGs:
- Bee Mine poos/CJ Daily Fix
- AO GPB conditioner+Tresemmé Naturals conditioner
- CJ Deep Fix + Curl Rehab (DC + LI)
- LIs: CJ Smoothing Lotion
- Qhemet AOHC + Komaza Califia Moisturising Cream + Oyin Whipped Pudding
- Curls Whipped Cream/Komaza Califia Pudding/ORS Smooth n Hold Pudding
- CJ Curl Queen / KCCC
- Coconut + castor oils
http://www.youtube.com/user/louloumatou?feature=mhee

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proudcurlygirly
Posted: 19 February 2011 09:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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smile Thanks for the CG guide angel_sista. The concept can be a bit daunting when you are first starting out, but you have explained the basics in an easy to understand manner.

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grin Curl Type : Boticelli, 3A, loose curls.
Porosity : High
Texture : Fine/medium (I think!)
Gels : Umberto Giannini Curl Friends Scrunching Jelly
Co-wash/rinse out/leave in : Garnier Fructis Repair and Shine, L’oreal Elvive Full Restore, Original Source Almond and Coconut
Finishing product : A pea-sized blob of condish smoothed over canopy to tame frizzies and flyaways.
CG since Feb 2011.

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angel_sista
Posted: 19 February 2011 09:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Aw, thanks guys! I know there have been a lot of people asking questions on the board lately, so I thought it’d be easier if it was all in one place that they could easily find ^.^

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Pre-poo/Dry Detangler agent/Sealant/Styler: Vatika Oil
Shampoo: Diluted African Black Soap
Conditioner: Tresemmé Naturals
Leave In - Giovanni Direct Leave In! :D

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SwedishCurly
Posted: 19 February 2011 11:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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angel_sista - 19 February 2011 09:47 AM

Aw, thanks guys! I know there have been a lot of people asking questions on the board lately, so I thought it’d be easier if it was all in one place that they could easily find ^.^

This was a great idea, Thank you grin

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I BC;d the 23/7-11. And I love my real hair. 4a/3c medium, thick.
Conditioner; DB PSC/AOGPB/Trader Joe’s Nourish spa
Leave in; DB Daily leave in
DT; DB deep conditioning mask
Sealants Summer EVOO/Avocado oil/Coconut oil Winter Painya hair butter/Shea butter

Also english is not my first language so forgive me when Iget the grammar wrong red face

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Posted: 19 February 2011 01:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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This is one of the better newbie primers I’ve seen!  grin  I love how you stress the whole way through that there are multiple ways of doing things and that it’s all about what works best for *you*, not that there are rigid rules. :-D

I would, however, suggest changing the ‘what’s a lo poo?’ answer to something closer to ‘lo poos are shampoos that are not sulfate based’, as that’s the way I think the term is used normally (though I may have been misled this whole time!).

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3b/c.  F/M/ii Normalish porosity. Corkicelli/Botticelli type curls.  CG (more or less) for three years and counting!

Stuff I like:
Suave, Curl Junkie, Spiral Solutions Caitlin’s Comditioner, Darcy’s Pumpkin Seed Conditioner, MopTop/Fuzzy Duck, Jessicurl WDT. Trader Joe’s Nourish when I have it.

Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Product review/ random hair rant blog: http://hairapparently.blogspot.com/

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Posted: 19 February 2011 05:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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yes - great post angel_sista! Agree with oow re the lo-poo being more about what the product contains - ie lo poos do not contain sulphates but more gentle surfactants eg cocamidropropyl betaine. Here’s a no-poo Jillipoo article on surfactants (which also contains a link to a pretty comprehensive list of surfactants generally):
http://jillipoo.blogspot.com/2009/02/lift-and-separate-with-surfactants.html

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3a/b med/coarse - mix normal/ high porosity. Transitioning to grey
Currently rotating:
Pre-cowash/cleanser: GFRS
Cleanser/Cowash: CJDF/Tresemme Naturals condish
Condish/DTs: Joico Kpak Reconstruct/CJ Deep Fix/JCWDT/Clairol Shimmer Lights/AOGPB/CJAO/AOWC
Leave Ins/Curl Creams: CJCCCC/CJ Smoothing Lotion
Stylers/Gels: BRHG/DB Cream Gel
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41240927@N03/

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angel_sista
Posted: 19 February 2011 06:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Whoopsie! I’m new to using shampoo, so it figures I’d get that bit wrong - I corrected it now though. Cheers oddity and CT! :D

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Pre-poo/Dry Detangler agent/Sealant/Styler: Vatika Oil
Shampoo: Diluted African Black Soap
Conditioner: Tresemmé Naturals
Leave In - Giovanni Direct Leave In! :D

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Posted: 19 February 2011 06:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Thank you very helpful ! x

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Type: 4B
Texture-medium
Shampoo: CURLS cleansing cream/ Tresemme naturals
Rinse out conditioner: CURLS tea ecstasy conditioner tresemme naturals
Deep conditioners: CURLS tea ecstasy conditioner boots coconut nd almond
Leave in conditioners: CURLS tea ecstasy conditioner
Gel: Boots curl creme pink
Oils : Coconut oil, olive oil

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KulchicBeauty
Posted: 08 June 2011 10:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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Great tip Angel_sista thanks

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KulChics raspberry

Texture: Coarse 4 type hair

Co Wash: Tresseme naturals

Leave-in Conditioner- Cantu Shea Butter leave in

Oils to Seal moisture- EVOO, sweet Almond Oil, coconut oil

I am happy to be natural

http://www.youtube.com/user/nyla115?feature=mhee

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angel_sista - 18 February 2011 12:18 PM

My hair looked awesome all day but then I went to bed and all my curls were gone!

Some people ‘pineapple their hair’ when they go to bed, which generally consists of piling all the curls on top of their head. This is to preserve the curl.
Then they use a satin bonnet or scarf or pillow case to protect the hair - this is prevent the cotton pillowcase wickering out the moisture from the hair.
Not every person finds pineappling works for them - some people prefer satin bonnets.
Due to the porous nature of your hair ends, some moisturise the ends, then ‘seal’ it with an oil or butter.

Wait! It has a name? Pineappling!! LOL I forgot I bought a satin bonnet… I haven’t tried it yet!! :D I’ll have to have a go this weekend.

Great post angel_sista

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Embracing the kinks in my hair whilst trying to remove the ones in my mind!

Hair Type: Mostly 3c/4a, but there’s a lot in between! Kinky/Curly/Coily/Wavy

Shampoo: Boots Ingredients Coconut and Almond Oil (but anything will do!)
Leave-in: HairVéda Whipped Créme Ends Hydration
Styler: Kinky-Curly Spiral Spritz

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shanda
Posted: 21 June 2011 08:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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Thank you so much! As a long time lurker, I’ve been looking for reasons why my hair reacts in different ways.
Your porosity explanations are the easiest to understand on the internet( and I’ve read so many!). I have low porosity and it’s all starting to make sense!
Thank you!

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